A high PA young player with low CA is not likely to get 1st team opportunities, (because he's not good enough right now), so he would probably benefit from going out on loan. The picture above is lies. Clubs with high youth recruitment ratings are often the clubs that get the best youth intakes. Yes of course there is a balance to be had here and if you play a player too much too young, then the chances are he will pay a price at the back end of his career. Before I get into the next experiment, I had a conversation with a few people recently with regards to the different levels within the facilities. 39/64 47/57 39/88 35/63 51/62 48/74 37/108 59/74 39/80 46/84 His PA ranges from 57-108 which again doesn't fit into any single range and actually has to be spread over 4 different ranges. The second way it can affect young players is with his Preferred Formation, Tactical Style, Playing Style and 2nd Preferred Formation. Fm22 youth intake golden generation By lt py ju ih zx . This is because you are now getting reports from one of your coaches, who might have a different opinion on the players ability compared to the scout. In comparison to Man Utd they have rubbish facilities and rubbish staff, but he hasn't swapped playing for Man Utd in the Premier League for playing for Preston in League 2, he's swapped playing for the U19's in the U19's for playing competitive League 2 football against men, so the jump in standard would have been significant. What happens if I reduce/increase the club reputation both before preview and after? It's certainly doable and is something I have thought about before. #FM22Challenge #FM22 #FM22_Journeyman #footballmanager2022 #footballmanager" Just like in the real world, it is just not realistic to have potential superstars coming out of your youth system each year. Passion4FM's NextGen Database will therefore be your source for the next generation of talents and your chance to discover some of the potential wonderkids for Football Manager 2023 - all depending on whether the players listed below will get specific permission to appear in Football Manager 2022 , or whether they are born after 01.09.2005. 6 players at 120+ PA. Before we start getting carried away, let's deal with the real basics 1st. Then my main question around youth intakes and player development has always been the same. 18. I am sure that certain cities will have certain nationalities come through. Highest CA 91. In the same vein, your head of youth development might get the potential of your youth intake wrong. This is simply an error that SI made when these levels were introduced, but for whatever reason they have decided not to correct the order in Junior Coaching. For ages I didn't know this and I think it was possibly Cleon's Ajax thread that finally shone a light on this, (and many other things for me. And to do that we simply need to head to Finances, Make Board Request, Networking and Improve Youth Recruitment. One of the largest Football Manager Communities/Forums on the internet. Youth Facilities don't have any additional features or bonuses like Youth Recruitment, but keep in mind that upgrading your Youth Facilities will cost a lot of money. We have continued on from the initial Youth Intake preview to the full Youth Intake Day, and now we have gone back to the previous day 9 times to give us 10 different intakes all from the same preview. The youth intake are generally bad and unfortauntely set in stone. There are things that I can answer now, (and prove), and there are things that I can answer now and I'm unable to prove and there are things that will take more research before a definitive conclusion can be reached but I think you ask some really good questions even if some of them move on a little from the Youth Intake preview/Youth Intake to actual player development, (but I think that's only natural because it's all 1 subject really). @Parmie It should be mentioned at this stage that there is a point after which some if the player info is hard-coded, (the Youth Intake preview), and first of all I'm going to see what is decided then and what is decided at a much later date. My first ever youth intake on FM22 is a golden generation (im with Fulham) 7 3 Football Sports 3 comments Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment jiniyoro 1 yr. ago Those letters will keep going down until the youth intake actually comes in. When you consider that the overall level of the Facilities was 23 compared to 4, this doesn't see like a good investment for this purpose, (but then again, you wouldn't think it would be). The clubs with the best overall youth potential will get their Youth Intake first. We will go over everything that we know at 100% certainty will help you get the best youth intake you can hope for. 13. At the moment I'm just sticking a few through just to get it started. Why do low rep clubs often seem to get players from Secondary Nations in their Intakes with high PA relative to the rest of the intake? The likelihood is - if your youth recruitment is poor - you will not see many players with high potential ratings. Plus after a little research the only player of Man Utds "class of 92" to go out on loan was Beckham in 1995, where he played all of five games for Preston North End. 1. I can't remember the name of it, (and I also can't find it in the Editor), but what happens if I edit the "Footballing Importance" or whatever it's called? @Mandy42 Highest PA 170. To reflect the real-life transfer window and other changes in the global football world, the new FM23 patch includes all the latest football transfers, loan deals, staff movements, changes to clubs' transfer budgets and their . There will of course be players who jump the queue though. On the other hand, if you are a managing team in the lower leagues, the probability of having the golden generation description during a youth intake is higher than when you are managing in the Premier League or another top league in Europe. Or can the same player count for more than one? You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. 6. (26.26 compared to 26.24). Instead, sign players who are in their prime, and you will see an almost immediate impact. Im upping this because I barely scratched the surface on FM22, (was too into my save), but already in FM23 I have questions that need answering. I "think"* what happens now is that the player rates your player against the player at your club best able to play in that position, (and how good he is in that position rather than how good he is in his best position). Powered by Invision Community. I don't think I have used the pre-game editor since the CM days, (it was a long time ago anyway), so while I know roughly what the -10, -9, -8 etc is, I would find it very hard to explain to someone else in this thread for example. PCA. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Also, other factors like facilities in the club, injuries, game time and personality of the players will come into play and influence whether the players realize their potential. Head of Youth Development. The last thing I would say though is that the CA/PA stars lie. This seems simple doesn't it. On the other hand, if you want to play 2 up front or 3 in the middle then this might be right up your street. This is the very 1st group of 10 intakes that will give us something to compare future intakes to. Even though you know they are not the same, you might be surprised by quite how different they can be. But it is useful to know a country's youth rating for other purposes, such as scouting and nabbing youth players from other clubs. Let's make a list of all the things that are static and remain the same in each of the 10 profiles. 142-187 fits between the -85 and -9 ranges so. further investigation required I think. No part of this site or its I am FAR from an expert. What caught my eye previously, but especially in the last results, was how many times the CA or PA ended in a 0, (so 10, 20, 30, 40 etc etc etc). He left Man Utd with their great facilities and coaches and went to play for Preston in the 3rd Division, (would now be League 2). As a result I have 2x 18 year old DR's 1x 21 year old DR, 1x 22 year old DR and a 23 year old DR. Once I have developed them I will either loan them out or sell them to generate income, but the big thing is I have to develop them 1st so that when and if I do need to go and buy someone, I will know that I have these 5 right backs that I have developed to a level that they can all come in and do a job for us. It was largely due to their combined talent, that Dynamo had its period of greatest domestic and international success. Enormously!!!! Press J to jump to the feed. My theory is some of them are poached away Reply DallyTheGreat 1 yr. ago The 1st thing to do will work out when the intake it, (it's towards the end of April), create a save before the date of the intake and go from there. (Hopefully it should make more sense as I start to progress through it). In addition to that, I have decided NOT to game the personality game where you put lots of effort into mentoring players with poor personalities into better personalities. The first thing you need to know is that every country has two fixed hidden attributes. More than them staying in my U23 team where they use training facilities and staff I have control over the quality of. Preferred foot. It was very much a short-term thing. This latest batch of newgens will lead to boundless optimism or incredible disappointment - or something in between. The next thing I look for is the Summary. One, he can pass on his Personality to your new players. A Head of Youth Development with Catenaccio as his Tactical Style will often train new players with the Libero role and one with a 5-3-2 as his preferred formation will often produce defensive midfielders and wingbacks. Today, Jake takes a look at how you can improve youth intakes in FM2022 so you can create more home-grown wonderkids. i tried this with many teams as i wanted to check whether this works or not. The levels of Youth Recruitment are: Let's continue with our previous hypothesis that Brazilian clubs can produce 2 S tier players, 3 A tier and 4 B tier. 4 players at 150+ PA. In terms of CA, this group came out the lowest so far, (lower than the minimum facilities where they were all set at 1). Next up is the Youth Facilities. I think it would help to see the total PA & CA of the intakes as well as the basic number of players. As with the previous Training Facilities post I will leaving all the other Facilities at L1 and upgrading Training Facilities to L20. Intake was observed in October, but it didn't seem based on division. Continue with Recommended Cookies. Though to me it seems to have an air of self fulfilling prophecy about it. and what seemed strange to me is that the preview with the highest rating of B was still a golden generation, but Preview (with just 1 A rating), wasn't classed as a golden generation. 2. (So think of them as 11, 12, 13, 14 & 15 years olds all playing aged group football). As well as the quality of the players in each position, the quantity can also be important. He's 33 now and I know the end is coming for him, but he still out-performs the younger strikers despite the fact that I've got 5 younger strikers ranked above him by CA stars, (and in fact 4 of them are ranked above him by actual CA numbers). I sign everyone from my youth intake every year, and I know for a fact that some of these players, after a year or maybe two, will all of a sudden have a lot higher PA than on youth intake day. I plan on just doing 1 single experiment at a time so it shouldn't be too onerous. If you see a player you like, you may be able to sign them for free, creating your own factory for talented wonderkids. Everyone who doesn't have a "." I haven't got any ideas why this has come up, but it's certainly unusual. Yeah, it bloomin is, but it's just the nature of the save and whether it's any more or any less hard work than looking through pages and pages of scout reports I'm not completely sure. These dates tend to be called regen day or Youth Intake Day by the Football Manager community. Highest CA 100. Well with regards to Nationalities I'm afraid that's not the case because it's changed and is no longer set at the Youth Intake Preview. A golden generation means that the staff in charge of bringing youth into your U18 team thinks there are three or four players from the youth intake that have the potential to feature in the first team in the coming years. 7 players at 120+ PA. Football manager 2022 offers an extensive search in scouting players. Be mindful though, if you see a player with high potential, sign them immediately before another club takes them from under your nose. Then this is the guide for you. . It's lazy and it needs to be called out more in my opinion. He's going about it completely the right way. There was a suggestion that all the facilities have 10 levels and another suggestion that some had 10 levels and some had 8 levels. Let's just ignore the 1st Team squad because they won't play for the B Team anyway, but after them we have the players who are good enough to play for a Liga Bwin side but who are not good enough to get in our 1st Team so they go out on loan. If he has a "Professional" personality, then there's a chance new players will have that personality as well. Sports Interactive 2016 It says those numbers are organised due to players preferred role. 1. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. I will just do 1 little thing each time. Secondary Nation players in other circumstances is something that could be looked at though, especially the relation with staff and affiliates. (I'm expecting that this would impact on the PPA & PCA, but I would like to see it actually happen). You can learn more about our editorial policies here. FM22 Journeyman on Twitter: "We've all had a golden generation, last years youth intake was one too! you can check out this one about comparing development. Thanks very much @the_hdkGlad you're enjoying it. In terms of player development is there an experiment that we could run that would compare development of players who stayed in the U19's players who were given a couple/few outings in the 1st Team, and the same player going out on loan at a lower level? Yes, I thought we had, but that was for FM22 and what did I say at the very start of the thread? The 1st thing I have to do is take over a club and I am using my Ceuta save from 1st April 2029, retiring as Manager, adding a new manager and taking over Melila in the Spanish 4th Tier. 26.24Control Group Average PA. 73.09Minimal Facilities Average PA. 33.01. As the club we're experimenting with in Spain is actually Melilla, (who are based on the African mainland), I would expect to see more Africans and certainly more Moroccans, but whether that's incorporated into the game I don't know. It's really not an exact science I'm afraid. 18. The accuracy of player judgement from your staff will also come into play, as they do not get to see the exact value of a players potential or current ability. On the day of the youth intake, your newgens. Or is that what is best for the player? This all starts from your youth intake email which is separated into four sections; elite, top, good, and decent talents. I would say that this one is more likely to answer about your question, about match experience & training. Injury susceptibility. It's free and only takes a few seconds. 8 players at 120+ PA. (There is generally/often a link between the relative strength of a players' ability and the PPM's he comes through with, so if the attributes change then the PPM's need to change too). Henrique Honorato. I can neither confirm nor deny that I absolutely 100% completely agree with you,but this isn't about what you "think" or what I "think", it's about what the results tell us. If you are trying to add regens to your shortlist from multiple intake months this may not work due to size, you need to do each month individually. We have 16 players in the intake (down the left hand side). Each club has a rating between 1-20 for each category. 9 out of the 10 intakes were classed as golden generations, and what seemed strange to me is that the preview with the highest rating of B was still a golden generation, but Preview (with just 1 A rating), wasn't classed as a golden generation. Highest CA 90. This is the message as it appears in my inbox, but rather than scrolling through the other positions, instead I'm going to click on Dev Centre - Youth Candidates and it makes things easier to view. content may be reproduced without permission. Just go with your gut, because CA and PA lie! We have a centre-mid who likes like a "top prospect" and a winger who looks like a "handy prospect". However, theres a couple of considerations we need to take into account: Without further ado, heres a table with the approximate dates of intake: In addition to these dates, which correspond to leagues that are playable in-game, we were also able to ascertain Youth Intake Dates for those countries that are not playable, more notably the entirety of African countries bar South Africa, several Central American countries, Asian and Oceanian countries. Or does it mean the position that the HoYD would prefer to play the player in? In Portugal, (where I have been playing in FM22), the Youth Intake preview appears in December and the Youth Intake itself appears in March, . Highest CA 118. 13. It's still a lot of investment for not much return in this area. I love this and will follow the results here with much interest! 14. A 10% chance. That's a flippin enormous failure in my book. Feel free to suggest others, (but no promise that I will get to them). Place of birth. 8. I'm playing Youth Only and messing about with my GK upfield and not mentoring players in order to make the game more of a challenge. This group were so good that they were all asked to train with the senior squad early on and all impressed. There may have already been experiments to test this, although I'm not sure exactly how you might do so. The very 1st intake I ran had 15 players from Spain and the top player, (by PA), was a small South American Nationality, (but I can't remember which and I didn't take a picture because why would I?) 5 players at 150+ PA. 8 players at 120+ PA. By Especially the part of different favoured persons, since it might mean my "ignore actual abilities and focus on personality/media handling" for all staff members might be proven to be a good idea (or not, as it were). If the econ factor changes ofc you need to improve the background of yout intake in some lets say next 10 years. :-). 6 players at 150+ PA. Highest PA 167. If a couple move into the U23s as backup, and another one makes the 1st team, you're doing well. Ricardo Luiz Gomes Mendes is the HoYD at this club and he has been tasked with this duty. He puts the ball in the net more than any of them. There is 1 bit of information that many people seem to overlook, and I expect that anyone who plays a Youth Only save regularly will pay close attention to it for obvious reasons. These were obtained from the game itself and cross-checked between different saves, so were absolutely certain that theyre correct. Range is 1-200. Here is a look at Intake 2 from the Control Group. He's found the back of the net on 8,944 occasions and provided a remarkable 2,926 assists - that works out at a direct goal contribution every two games. From what I remember seeing elsewhere, on the preview day the range for CA/PA is set for each player (e.g. We have already clarified that Nationalities are static haven't we? Youth Recruitment is a club's network of information and ability to recruit young prospects. This one will be particularly interesting for me. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. Once you sign the player, the stars might then drop to 3 or 4. I "think" it's too simplistic to say that there is a cut-off like that, but without running an experiment it's hard to quantify, and I would expect the results of any experiment in this area to be open to significant amounts of interpretation, (which is not really the idea). We've only recently been given a B Team, (we're in 2050 now and I still haven't won the Liga Bwin), and for a while I was just keen to batter the opposition and field the strongest side I could in the B Team but now I have a different strategy. Youth Intake - An In-depth Guide on How Clubs Produce Newgens Passion4FM Trending The Unbelievable 4-2-3-1 Football Manager 2023 Tactic feat. 200-300h Unlock Golden Generation achievement in Football Manager 2022 Xbox Edition Unlock Golden Generation You unlocked a Golden Generation of world-class youth players 0 1 guide Hide. 10 gives us an idea at least. 4. I will do very small comparisons each time so that it doesn't become a huge task. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. A couple intakes were observed in October. The truth here is that there isn't a 1 size fits all answer, quite simply because there is not only 1 thing that influences player development. Let's say there's a default 1% chance of producing an S tier player for every club. Player names, Nationality, Date of Birth, Position. The facilities at the club. I'm managing in Portugal and playing Youth Only and now have a B Team playing in the 2nd tier in Portugal. So I will admit to being particularly curious as to what the results would show here. That makes sense. Whilst assessing your own youth intake is the first port of call, it's always worth scouting around to see if you can steal any potential wonderkids from under the noses of rival clubs. Hopefully this will save you the countless hours of browsing it took me to find all that information. A big club with a good youth system is likely to have at least two players in every playing position in its youth squad. Nationality. This isn't the players in your Youth Team or players on Youth contracts no matter what squad they are in. Why do low rep clubs often seem to get players from Secondary Nations in their Intakes with high PA relative to the rest of the intake? 4. Inverted Winger vs Inside Forward, When Should You Use Them? CA values ending in a 0 digit = 67 (82%) Training Facilities has 20 levels, but 10 different named sections, (each containing multiple levels). Highest CA 95. If you have any particular area that you would like me to look at then please feel free to mention it. No offer of a new contract as yet so I'm browsing the job centre! We say with 100% certainty because there's always a lot of speculation and opinions on what the best methods and approaches are, but this guide will focus on things that are either confirmed in-game or have been confirmed by the developers. Since most of these countries tend not to have a good Stature or Youth Rating within world football, you might not get absolute superstars out of them (except for some freakish occurrence), but a couple might be decent enough for you. After all, a L20 Training Facility is a flippin enormous investment. 7. I think part of the problem with doing these sorts of experiments is that they become so in depth that they don't leave you any time to actually play the game yourself, (and I don't know about anyone else but that doesn't sound great to me). Initially I posted a reply to the video, (and no I'm not going to link to it in here), but I deleted my post and instead of telling you what I know and what I think, I'm going to run some experiments and let the results speak for themselves. So not how good the player actually is, but how good whoever is compiling the reports things he is). Highest CA 94. I'm showing more than my usual interest. @Mandy42. Just like last season, 10 intakes for each simulation is tiny, but it's better than 1 intake and the truth is that I just can't be bothered to do more. Why do low rep clubs often seem to get players from. The fact that the problem is limited to CA only suggests that there is some sort of modifier being added to these figures to make them like this. (I "think"* that a staff member on the favoured personnel list influences the make-up of a plyer, but I don't know how). From what I have seen I don't have any issue with his stuff being posted in here. I will then post the info on 10 different Intakes all run with how the facilities are in the game as is, and then I will change things using the in game editor, go back and run the intake again, (10 more times) and see what gets thrown up. Football Manager 2022 - Youth Intake Guide, How Youth Recruitment Affects Youth Intake, Free-transferrable Players (by 2021) Shortlist. What happens if I edit the Affiliations, both before the preview and after? There's a quick and easy way to find this out. Whether he's right or wrong doesn't matter. Because I always struggle with the thought process that surely sending my star of the future to play regularly for a club with worse staff / training facilities and teammates is really going to improve them as a player? It's also important to remember that these young players are being rated against the CA of your existing players rather than their PA. I have lots of questions and I will try too go through all of them between now and when FM23 comes out, (it's going to take a while), so I may start listing them. It's relative to the players you have at your club already. If you are anything like me, you don't take a huge amount of notice of the Youth Intake preview. @fc.cadonilinked me to the above Youtube account and I've only had a look at 1 video but I've been really impressed actually. Allow me to introduce Ricardo to you, and his 9 alter-ego's. The dream is for a 'golden generation' of youth and, even better than that, a player that "could possibly emerge as one of the best players of his generation." Spoiler alert - you won't always get good players. It's hard, but try and develop every player to the best of your ability, (or just cull them). With the rise of Fm22 Tips Youth Intake Football Manager 2022, many people are beginning to use them as an alternative to cars. If I was to give my opinion it would be that U23 experience should be greater than U19 experience, (but not by loads), and it's the reason many U23's go out on loan.